Re: No logic.. only Foolishness.

Pim van Meurs (entheta@eskimo.com)
Wed, 04 Jun 1997 22:47:50 -0400

"This is an excellent point, and applies with greatest force to the rise
of
Christianity itself. It strains credulity to the breaking point to think
that
Christ's followers would go to death for him if he had not risen from the
dead. Perhaps one could have lost it and gone to his death for a lie; but
all
of them? Hardly."

That is hardly a convincing argument since the same could be used to show
that the Hindus are correct or the Islam or .... After all why else would
people risk death in the name of their religion if their religion was not
the 'only and true one" ? There are plenty of examples of people willing
to follow their leaders into death for their ideas, does this show that
there is any truthfulness to the claims of their leaders ? Is there a UFO
circling Hale Bopp ?

Jim: And what else but the conviction born of direct experience could have
kept
them all preaching in the face of opposition from their own religious
leaders
and the might of Imperial Rome?

Conviction is the right word but this is hardly proof. People were
convinced that the earth was flat once.

Jim: All one need do is apply reason to the real world and the case
becomes
overwhelming.

Indeed but applying reason to the real world would most likely lead to a
conclusion you do not want to support.

Regards

Pim