After Their Kind

pdd@gcc.cc.md.us
19 Jul 1996 19:48:28 EDT

>GM: "In what kind of sense did God create a kind with different
>chromosomal numbers?"

>I can't answer this question - how do we know this is what God
>did? At the moment, I see the chromosomal differences as
>emerging with time - linked to speciation within the ancestral
>population.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>*** From David J. Tyler, CDT Department, Hollings Faculty,
> Manchester Metropolitan University, UK.
> Telephone: 0161-247-2636 ***

David makes a good point.

Morris actually takes this a step further and proposes it to be evidence
of many changes from the original Biblical "kinds"... i.e. genetic
variation, fragmentation, mutation, replacement, and speciation, within
the original potentiality and limitations of that "kind". He has also
suggested that it may in fact represent devolution away from the
original "kind" rather than evolution.

I was wondering whether evolutionists simply presuppose that these
mechanisms inevitably result in a higher order of organisms (eventually
leading up the taxonomic tree), or whether they can accept that they
simply result in different organisms and any potentiality for vertical
or horizontal change is still theoretical?

>How this actually happened is not so clear -
>but I can see a research programme unfolding here which is
>significantly different from a neoDarwinian one.

Again, another good point. We are now to the point technologically where
we can observe speciation occurring either in the laboratory or the
field. If we can limit our inferences WRT the historical context of the
observed evidence we can then simply determine which model fits the
observed data most efficiently. Over the long run it will soon become
evident as to which model is most empirically sound.

For example, is there any evidence that the few cases of observed
speciation seen today result in a species with a decided long-term
reproductive or survival advantage that will eventually give rise to
vertical evolution? I suspect not. If that is the case, then the
observed speciation seems to at least support Morris's creationist
model. Perhaps as we learn more we will gain a greater understanding of
the various models and their soundness WRT Biblical "kinds".

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Rv:4:11: Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for
thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
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Paul Durham
Oakland, Maryland
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