---2122292726-521218215-829277965=:56128
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Content-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92.960411205947.56128D@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca>
Hello Stephen,
On Fri, 12 Apr 1996, Stephen Jones wrote:
> Art has recently sent
> me a copy of Patterson's 1981 AMNH transcript. It is an absolutely
> devastating critique of evolution, by one of its favourite sons. What
> I cannot understand is how eminent *non-Christian* biologists like
> Goodwin, Patterson, Grasse and Gould, can examine Neo-Darwinist
> evolution and find it so bereft of scientific merit and yet
> *Christian* theistic evolutionists can be so ardent in its defence,
> and be so critical of their non-evolutionist Christian brothers
> who dare to take up the points raised by these anti-Darwinian
> non-Christian biologists.
You don't understand because you don't understand the critiques by Goodwin
et.al. within their context. Put the Patterson transcript on the
reflector. You've demonstrated to me on more than one occasion you
have difficulty reading so I don't trust your reading and
interpretation of Patterson.
> As for me, I believe it is at least possible that the God of the Bible
> progressively created the universe, first life and life's complex
> designs. Therefore, even though a non-scientists, I will, in the best
> traditions of science, advance both arguments for this hypothesis, and
> arguments against competing hypotheses (eg. NE, ND, PC, TE, EC, etc),
> from an eclectic variety of sources.
Aren't you a wee bit presumptuous? You admit you are not a professional
scientist, but you assert you can stand over scientists and their work
and assess it. Stephen, in my field of developmental evolutionary biology,
I am convinced you couldn't even read the primary literature. So how in
the world can you possibly be a judge over science?
> I am totally unconcerned if no
> one believes what I say (although it would be nice if some did! <g>),
> and I am even learning to cope with ad hominem comments of those who
> apparently cannot refute my arguments. The only thing that will work
> with me, is compelling arguments against my position.
Spoken like a truely persecuted "saint." I've heard Mormons, JWs, and
other cultists use this same rhetoric. Regarding your "irrefutable
arguments," I am still awaiting your response to my correcting your use
of the Darwin quotes. And are you going to have the humility to admit
you gaffed the date of Hodge's Systematic Theology?
> I am conscious that God's truth is never decided by a majority
> opinion, and that those individuals whom God uses have nearly always
> been "The voice of one crying in the wilderness" (Mt 3:3).
Your "testimony" is bordering illusions of grandeur. Do you see yourself
as science's John the Baptist?
As always,
Denis
----------------------------------------------------------
Denis O. Lamoureux DDS PhD PhD (cand)
Department of Oral Biology Residence:
Faculty of Dentistry # 1908
University of Alberta 8515-112 Street
Edmonton, Alberta Edmonton, Alberta
T6G 2N8 T6G 1K7
CANADA CANADA
Lab: (403) 492-1354
Residence: (403) 439-2648
Dental Office: (403) 425-4000
E-mail: dlamoure@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca
"In all debates, let truth be thy aim, and endeavor to gain
rather than expose thy opponent."
------------------------------------------------------------
---2122292726-521218215-829277965=:56128--