On Thu, 27 Jul 1995 00:17:19 -0400 you wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
SJ>Interesting that Gould won't debate PJ. As the Creation-Scientists
>showed, evolution does not stand up very well in debates. <<
GM>This reminds me of an interesting experience I had in college. I
was at the
>second debate ICR staged. It was at Oklahoma University in January of 1973... >Gish and Morris were on the creation side, and Frings and Kitts were on the >evolution side. Kitts had been poorly informed of what the debate was about >but he handled himself very well on the fly. Frings was very good.
GM>Even though I was a YEC at the time, I thought the evolutionists
did better.
>I was disappointed. Several of my Christian friends were also disappointed.
>Years later I read the ICR account of the debate. I do not think we were in
>the same universe much less the same auditorium.
No doubt some debates of these debates go better or worse (depending
on
your viewpoint) than others. But as I understand it, even
evolutionists
acknowledge that the creationists won most of the debates:
"Eldredge, in Chapter 1 (Eldredge N., "The His Monkey Business: A
Scientist Looks at Creationism", Washington Square Press, NY, 1982),
states that: `Creationists today-at least the majority of their
spokesmen-are highly educated, intelligent people (p.
17)...Concerning
the debates, which he states have taken place all over the United
States, Eldredge says, `The creationists nearly always win" (p. 17).
He admits
that creationists don't argue religion, have always done their
homework,
and nearly always seem better informed than their opponents, whom, he
says, `are reduced too often to a bewildered state of incoherence.'"
(Gish D.T., "Creation Scientists Answer Their Critics", 1993,
Institute
for Creation Research, El Cajon, CA, pp230-231).
God bless.
Stephen
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