Re: Kerkut

No I am not saying that I wont consider anything new. Have you convinced me that Genesis 1 is before time?

Things happen in Genesis 1. Matter and energy are present. God commands (says) and things become. I think this clearly indicates time. How do you not think that time is not present here?
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Glenn Morton
  To: jack syme ; Asa
  Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 9:16 PM
  Subject: RE: Kerkut

  What you are saying is, I won't consider anything new. Thanks for the conversation.
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    From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu]On Behalf Of jack syme
    Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 6:11 PM
    To: Glenn Morton; ASA; Dick Fischer
    Subject: Re: Kerkut

    Yes, but that is not what Genesis 1 is about.
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Glenn Morton
      To: jack syme ; ASA ; Dick Fischer
      Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 3:56 PM
      Subject: RE: Kerkut

      God existed prior to the creation of the universe and thus prior to the creation of space-time.
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        From: jack syme [mailto:drsyme@cablespeed.com]
        Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 11:39 AM
        To: Glenn Morton; ASA; Dick Fischer
        Subject: Re: Kerkut

        Before TIME? How can that possibly be before time? Everything about that text is about time. And if you think they are historical doesnt that imply time?

          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Glenn Morton
          To: jack syme ; ASA ; Dick Fischer
          Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 10:15 AM
          Subject: RE: Kerkut

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            From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu]On Behalf Of jack syme
            Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 11:07 PM
            To: Glenn Morton; ASA; Dick Fischer
            Subject: Re: Kerkut

            Yes, I am familiar with what you are saying. I think that Genesis 2:4 is the transition betwen the figurative, and the historical narrative.

            GRM: I would phrase it differently. I would say that 1 is man's best attempt to describe what went on before time, but since we are temporal beings, we can't talk about pre-time. I would place historical content into these events, and wouldn't call them 'figurative'.

            By the way, for anyone who might want to know what I do, one of the fields which my team discovered made the front page of the Houston Chronicle. Unfortunately, the web version doesn't have the picture of the spar, but this tells about Red Hawk spar which will produce the field we found. http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/business/2391995
Received on Sun Feb 8 07:04:42 2004