RE: Fibbonacci and other mathematical patterns in shells

From: Alexanian, Moorad (alexanian@uncw.edu)
Date: Mon Aug 18 2003 - 21:16:28 EDT

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    If an electron is not “intelligently designed” because it is produced by purely natural process, then surely humans are similarly not designed. I do not think an ID advocate would agree with you.

     

    Moorad

            -----Original Message-----
            From: Howard J. Van Till [mailto:hvantill@chartermi.net]
            Sent: Mon 8/18/2003 3:31 PM
            To: Alexanian, Moorad
            Cc: ASA@calvin.edu
            Subject: Re: Fibbonacci and other mathematical patterns in shells
            
            
            From: "Alexanian, Moorad" <alexanian@uncw.edu>
            
    > Perhaps someone can tell me why isn°¶t, say, an electron intelligently
    > designed? A brick is just as intelligently designed as a house!
            
            Yes, but only if you use the term "intelligently designed" in the ordinary manner of contemporary usage.
            
            The problem, as I have stated on numerous occasions, rests with ID advocates' peculiar use of the word couplet, "intelligently designed." In ID speak, to say that "X was intelligently designed" is to say, in effect, that "X was actualized (assembled, formed, fabricated...) in such a way as to require one or more occasions of non-natural, form-conferring intervention by an unidentified, unembodied, choice-making agent." If one uses THAT definition, then an electron would not be "intelligently designed" because it is produced by purely natural processes.
            
            Howard Van Till
            
            



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