From: Jay Willingham (jaywillingham@cfl.rr.com)
Date: Wed Aug 13 2003 - 18:52:37 EDT
Interesting analysis.
A few things jump out on a first scan.....
Like so many efforts, it tries to force biblical passages to conform with
conventional current assumptions about the nature of being and time.
Time is a created thing and things can be created bearing apparent age, as
some say the Mt. St. Helens event has shown for geologic indicators.
The term the "ground" can be said to include all of creation as subject to
the curse.
For instance, see Romans 8:
"18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth
comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19 For the creation
waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the
creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who
subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be set free from its
bondage to decay and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the
pains of childbirth until now. 23 And not only the creation, but we
ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait
eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this
hope we were saved. Now hope that is seen is not hope. For who hopes for
what he sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we wait for it with
patience."
The site states "Scripture nowhere implies that matter per se was originally
created eternal but became transitory at the fall."
What about the destruction of the cosmos and the earth and the creation of
the new earth after all the former things had passed away?
The site states "Since animals do not have the moral capacity to sin, their
death cannot have arisen because they sinned, as in the above prescription."
The death of animals, the shedding of innocent blood for our sin, is a
cornerstone of redemption of sin made complete by the death and resurrection
of the Lamb of God.
Some also say the first animals died when God clothed Adam and Eve with
skins.
Jay Willingham
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry M. Gray" <grayt@lamar.colostate.edu>
To: <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:11 PM
Subject: RE: different thread
> Sheila,
>
> Check out
> http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/creature_mortality.shtml?main
>
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