From: Alexanian, Moorad (alexanian@uncw.edu)
Date: Mon Mar 31 2003 - 08:59:24 EST
To scientists everything is equally old. The question whether physical
things that exist came into being via natural processes from physical
things that existed before hand is more of a philosophical question than
a scientific one. That is to say, one has to make a philosophical
assumption in order to further proceed with the science. Of course,
there are non-physical things in nature and that, certainly, may go
outside the purview of science. Moorad
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Brunt [mailto:pbrunt@xtra.co.nz]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 5:35 AM
To: 'Dick Fischer'; asa@calvin.edu
Subject: RE: appearance of age and the goodness of God
Dick wrote
I cannot accept the age of the water in the wine jars as 4.5
billion years old. What about the water and carbon cycles?
Much water is produced from the metabolism of all life on earth
and while it was come from water initially via photosynthesis
some of that time it has been carbohydrate, lipid or protein or
some other metabolite like hydrocarbon. Some hydrocarbons
and other metabolites are "locked up" for many millions of
years. Hence the "water" is locked up.
However, yes to the substance part and the rest of your
paragraph.
Are we really able to explain a miracle? Do we really need to
anyway? Seems to me that miracle explanation is a devise to
rationalise an unexplainable event. Who knows if our surmising
is correct and what does it matter any way?!!!
Peter Brunt
Bill Payne wrote:
When Jesus created good (aged) wine from water, and when He
multiplied
fish and loaves, He did so in a short period of time, yet the
products
had the "appearance of age."
The water was aged for 4.5 billion years. Jesus changed the
nature of the substance not its age. And he multiplied the fish and
loaves. You can't possibly equate that with artificially dating every
radioactive substance on earth by mixing in just the right amounts of
daughter elements to provide consistent but contrived dates, which is
only one of the clever manipulations He would have to do to fit your
theory.
Dick Fischer - Genesis Proclaimed Association
Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History
www.genesisproclaimed.org
<http://www.genesisproclaimed.org/>
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