From: John Burgeson (burgythree@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Mar 11 2003 - 12:18:32 EST
>>How about this from a good Christian creationist whom I have never met or
>>written to before >>
Fairly typical of some of the yahoos I deal with on almost a daily basis in
Compuserve's RELIGION forum.
It is a sad thing when a person has neither the wit to write well, nor the
intelligence to remain silent. Your correspondent suffers from a severe case
of the "certainties." Avoid him.
Burgy
www.burgy.50megs.com
>From: "Michael Roberts" <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
>To: <asa@calvin.edu>
>Subject: Fw: Creation!
>Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:41:55 -0000
>
>How about this from a good Christian creationist whom I have never met or
>written to before
>
>Michael
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Philip Snow
>To: michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk
>Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 6:29 PM
>Subject: Fw: Creation!
>
>
>Dear Michael Roberts,
> "THE CREATOR IS CLEARLY SEEN IN THE CREATION, & IT IS INEXCUSABLE NOT
>TO
>BELIEVE...BUT THEY BECAME FOOLS ...""FOLLOWING CONTRADICTORY KNOWLEDGE/
>FALSELY CALLED /SCIENCE....." "& WORSHIPPED THE CREATION INSTEAD OF THE
>CREATOR". Many "uniformitarianists" "WILL BE SCOFFERS AT HIS COMING.." for
>"THE WORLD'S WISDOM IS FOOLISHNESSS TO GOD".
>
>GENESIS & THE BIBLE :
>"IN THE BEGINNING GOD CREATED [FROM NOTHING] THE HEAVENS & THE EARTH"
>"BEFORE TIME BEGAN" [2 Timothy 1 v 9 ] "UPHOLDING EVERYTHING THE BY WORD
>OF HIS POWER" "STRETCHED OUT THE HEAVENS" [Ps 104 v 2; Jer 10 v 12; Is 40
>v 22]
>
>"EVERYTHING VISIBLE IS MADE FROM THE INVISIBLE / ELEMENTS, WHICH WILL/ARE
>BURN[ING} UP"
>"LET THERE BE LIGHT" [Hebrews 11 v 3; 2 Peter 3 v 10; Genesis 1 v 3 etc]
>
>"AND THE EARTH WAS WITHOUT FORM AND VOID" [Genesis 1 v 2]
>
>"LET AN EXPANSE/firmament SEPARATE THE WATERS FROM THE WATERS" [Gen. 1]
>
>"THE CIRCLE OF THE EARTH" "HANGING UPON NOTHING" "TURNING LIKE CLAY TO THE
>POTTERS SEAL {the sun?] [Is 40 v 22, Job 26 v 7, 38 v 14.]
>
>"LET THE EARTH BRING FORTH GREEN MATTER"
>"LET THERE BE LIGHTS IN THE SKY" [Genesis 1 vs 12 - 14]
>
>"FIRST, WAS THE WORD" = JESUS/GOD or the "LOGOS" = Information [amongst
>many other far, far more important things!] [John 1 v 1; Hebrews 1 v 3
>etc]
>"LET THE WATERS BRING FORTH SWARMS OF LIFE" "after their Kind"[Genesis 1 v
> 20]
>
>"WINGED CREATURES" but only "AFTER THEIR KIND" [Genesis 1 v 20, 21 etc]
>
>"LET THE EARTH BRING FORTH LIVING CREATURES" "after their kind"[Gen 1 v
>20, 21]
>
>"LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE" [Genesis 1 v 26 etc]
>"SIN & DEATH ENTERED THE WORLD . THROUGH ONE MAN" [Gen. 3; Romans 5, 8]
>
>"THE CREATION WAS SUBJECTED TO FUTILITY/IN BONDAGE TO DECAY"
>"ALL CREATION GROANING...IN PAIN" [Romans 5 v 12; + 8 v 20, 21 etc]
>
>
>"THE FOUNTAINS OF THE GREAT DEEP WERE BROKEN UP & THE WINDOWS OF THE
>HEAVENS WERE OPENED..." [Genesis 7 v 11, 8 v 2; Isaiah 24 v 18, Revel. 16
>v 21]
>"THE WATERS PREVAILED UPON THE EARTH..150 days" [2 Peter 3 v 6 etc]
>"ALL THE HIGH HILLS..UNDER THE WHOLE HEAVEN, WERE COVERED" [Gen. 7 v 9]
>"THE MOUNTAINS ASCENDED & THE VALLEYS DESCENDED". [Psalm 104; Zech. 14]
>
>JUDGEMENT IS COMING AGAIN, BUT "GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE
>GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, SO THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM SHOULD NOT
>PERISH & HAVE ETERNAL LIFE" [Matthew 12 v 36; Acts 24 v 25; John 3 v 16
>etc]
>And JESUS will " GATHER THEM [Islamic/"World/Christian" etc armies]
>TOGETHER TO THE PLACE.THAT IS CALLED IN HEBREW HAR-MAGEDON." .to over-run
>Jerusalem & Israel, & then be destroyed, when the Jews in their desperation
>"look unto Him whom they have pierced" - & He returns. Hallelujah!]
>[Revelation 16 v 14 -16, Zechariah 14; Isaiah 63 etc]
>And the "Heavens will wear out & roll up like a scroll", but there will be
>"NEW HEAVENS & A NEW EARTH".
>
>
>[The following was addressed to Dawkins, Andrew Marr et al, but how
>appalling that it almost equally applies to you! Fancy siding with the
>likes of these self-imposed victim's of the "empty prison of atheism" &
>their meaningless, pitiless universe - & rejecting the glaringly obvious
>"God's fingerprint" of "Intelligent Design", which even the most entrenched
>"Theistic Evil" folk usually accept! [And finding petrol owes nothing to
>Eviloonyshoddy Feary, simply to sequential pan*global* stratification &
>trillions of rapidly & catastrophically generated "index" fossils!...etc.
>You really should get up to date, on the rapidity of virtually all rock
>deposits,even deep granites!]
>
> "If we didn't believe that it is a matter of [eternal] life & death
>[ditto!],which view of our origins & destination we actually embrace, we
>could simply content ourselves with a chuckle at your bizarre
>"evolutionary" views.
> Now come on, do you really expect us to believe that we are merely the
>accidental side-effects of a random explosion in nothingness, chance
>chemicalsoup & trillions of genetic mistakes!? [Like ex-evolutionist S. J.
>Gould, who used to think we were just "a glorious evolutionary accident
>resulting from 60 trillion contingent events" [that's 60 trillion cosmic &
>chemical accidents [mutations some 99.9% destructive or neutral!], all
>"saved up" by goal-less "natural selection" - just in case they might later
>somehow get together!When incredibly engineered so-called "simple cells "
>are irreducibly complex etc....]
> How on earth can you keep a straight face, especially when presenting
>this sort of nonsense as fact, let alone science?! Do wake up....
> Especially when it is Creationists that are ridiculed for believing
>fairy stories - when actually the Bible simply states that "before time
>began", God "rich in dynamic energy" instantly "created out of nothing" &
>"invisible particles" the wonderful "heavens & earth", many "stars" too
>numerous to count,
>& the"round earth" "hanging upon nothing" in "stretched out" space. Sounds
>far more scientific than man's often pseudo-science - which has at least
>acknowledged that any "Big Bang" must have been fine-tuned to incredible,
>staggering degree of accuracy - to 1 part in10 to the 60th - more than
>science's definition of the absurd!
>[Speaking of the absurd, how about "science's latest answer to Creation =
>countless nano-universes crashing together to produce endless big bangs,
>one of which only might produce the exact, precise conditions for our
>"anthropic" universe!?] Desperate rubbish....you ought ot be ashamed of
>yourselves, especially as you virtually never allow any opposition to your
>ceaseless onslaught of derisory drivel!
> We will all have to stand before that Creator & explain our actions,
>after His extremely visible return as prophesied - when Jerusalem is
>completely over-run by Islam/world's armies - sound familiar?! And it is
>the "false teachers", as well as the apostate church, who will be most
>severely scourged at that coming - the ones with no excuse at all! Don't
>you realise the incredible to the very Creator of the Universe, suggesting
>that He would allow millions of years of blind, random bloodshed & endless
>pain [in violation of His clear words in Genesis & Romans 5 etc] to
>"spiritually" kickstart some triumphant knuckle walking primate? [no, I
>don't mean the popish ArchDruid of Cant!]
>"CHOOSE THIS DAY WHOM YOU WILL SERVE".
> Yours faithfully
>
>Philip Snow BA hons.
>WildArt/Creation
>Beach Cottages Malltraeth Anglesey N Wales
>UK LL62 5AT
>Tel/Fax 01407 840512.
>"God ...will destroy those who are destroying the earth" Revelation 11 v
>17.
>
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