Response to: What does the creation lack?

From: Peter Ruest (pruest@pop.mysunrise.ch)
Date: Thu Nov 08 2001 - 15:35:11 EST

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    > From: george murphy <gmurphy@raex.com>
    > To: "D. F. Siemens, Jr." <dfsiemensjr@juno.com>
    > Subject: Re: What does the creation lack?
    > Date: Sat, Oct 27, 2001, 6:55 AM
    >
    > "D. F. Siemens, Jr." wrote:
    >
    > > As I considered Howard and Peter's views, which look different, I
    > > wondered just how different they are in their outworking. A part of the
    > > problem seems to be our view of nature, which usually seems to become
    > > Nature, which runs on its own. This is obviously deism or worse. But it
    > > results in Howard being accused of being a deist. However, his "fully
    > > gifted nature" is under the constant care of Providence, so that it is
    > > all within the will of the Almighty. Everything works, and works out, as
    > > God intends.
    > >
    > > Peter argues that the possibilities are so varied that God has to direct
    > > matters so that the world as we know it will result. This emphasizes
    > > "special occurrences" rather than constant care, but seems pretty close
    > > to a twin of Howard's view. It strikes me that what we have is more a
    > > matter of emphasis than of actual difference. Both hold that the world is
    > > as it is because God so wills it and makes it so.
    > >
    > > Am I missing something?
    >
    > Perhaps one thing you're missing is that use of the term
    > "Providence"
    > in describing Howard's view may be misleading. He has expressed some
    > approval of the process theology views of Griffin, which differ
    > significantly
    > from traditional doctrines of providence in which God is omnipotent. In
    > process thought God is "lures" the world toward the goals God intends, but
    > one can't say that "all [is] within the will of the Almighty. Everything
    > works, and works out, as God intends."
    > But probably Howard will want to speak for himself on this.
    >
    > Shalom,
    >
    > George
    >
    > George L. Murphy
    > http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
    > "The Science-Theology Interface"

    As process theology contradicts biblical theism, I reject it.

    Peter



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