Well let's see:
A soul = living person (by interpretation comparison between KJV and NIV
A soul [living person] = body + breath of life. Gen 2:7
A soul [living person] /= (not equal) body - breath of life /= body [not living person] (this is a dead body)
A soul [living person] /= breath of life - body /= breath of life [life force] (a soul is not spirit [the life force] A soul may have spirit but not be spirit.)
That seems pretty exclusionary. One can get a fuller definition of the soul by inferences from the rest of the Bible, but any definition of the soul which equates it with the breath of life or some thing that can exist separate from a body with the breath of life is not Biblical.
----- Original Message -----
From: Darryl Maddox
To: Allen Roy ; asanet
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: TE-man
These are hardly definitions of a soul. A definition is (to me at least) a group of words assymbled in approximately the following fashion: "A 'the word being defined' is............." and then proceeds to give enough information about the concept or item being defined that the reader or listener can make a list of all items which may or may not be the word or concept defined and determine from the characteristics in the definition which of the items on the list are and which are not the defined item. The information which is included in a definition has to be at a minimum, all the characteristics which are required of an item to be one of the group of items which were defined, + all the characteristics which can exclude an item from being in the group so defined. Other than listing all inclusional and exclusional characteristics, a definition may list only those charactersitics necessary for an item to be included and those which are suffecient to be included or excluded. Then, by this definition, all items which have all the necessary conditions for inclusion and none of those suffecient for exclusion fit the definition while items which lack all the necessary characteristics or posses one or more of the characteristic suffecient for exclusion are excluded.
The scriptures you quoted give niether the characteristcs necessary for inclusion, or suffecient for exclusion.
Darryl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Allen Roy" <allenroy@peoplepc.com>
To: "asanet" <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: TE-man
> It seems to me that we need to define or discover how the Bible defines a
> soul. There are only two verses in the Bible which define the soul --
>
> Genesis 2:7 And the lord God formed man from the dust of the ground and
> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living being
> [soul]. NIV
>
> 1 Co 15:45 So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being
> [soul]"; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. NIV
>
> This gives a very simple (for God :) formula to make a soul:
>
> A. Form a body.
> B. Infuse the body with life (Breath of life)
> C. Result: A living being (soul)
>
> Any other definition of the soul is not Biblical. Including the ever
> popular, erroneous, idea that God put a soul into a living being: i.e. that
> the soul is something separate from the person. It is life that was put
> into the body, not a soul into a body.
>
> Throughout the Bible we find that the soul eats, gets hungry, is happy,
> angry, gets tired, sleeps, dies, etc.
>
> This is where you must start, a Biblical definition of the soul. You can
> invent anything else you want, but it won't be Biblical and is totally
> irrelevant to the Bible.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bjoern Moeller" <dj_mic20@yahoo.com>
> > These days I read my way through some good books all
> > written by authors holding a TE viewpoint. I certainly
> > enjoy the reading, but there is one issue I just can't
> > find in these books, and that is the spirited/souled
> > man as made in God's image (God breathed his spirit
> > into the nostrils of man etc.). It is perfectly fine
> > with me that man is a product of an evolving nature,
> > but how do TE's account for man being a creature with
> > a soul/spirit? I mean, how did the soul of man evolve?
> > Can biological evolution explain that? And, if not,
> > who can?
>
>
>
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