Re: intelligent design (fwd)

From: Joel Cannon (jcannon@jcannon.washjeff.edu)
Date: Mon Jul 03 2000 - 17:54:35 EDT

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    From: "Bryan R. Cross" <crossbr@SLU.EDU>

    In response to my question about whether he disagreed with Dawkins
    statement about evolution making it possible to be an intellectually
    fulfilled atheist, Bryan answered,

    > Because I agree with Augustine that being an intellectually fulfilled atheist is a
    >contradiction in terms. Therefore, nothing, not even Darwinism, can make it possible.

    My followup question: Why worry about challenging Dawkins-like
    thinking by arguing about whether Darwinism requires intelligent
    direction?

    I know you didn't quite argue that, but you posed it in a way and
    defended ID in a way that did not reveal that bedrock belief and it
    makes me think that you would like to challenge Dawkins-like thinking
    on the premise rather than on the fact that the statement could not
    possibly be true.

    Blessings!

    Joel Cannon wrote:

    > > From: Bryan Cross <crossbr@SLU.EDU>
    >
    > > > > Dawkins writes, "Darwin made it possible
    > > > >to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist." If Darwinism requires intelligent
    > > > >direction, then Dawkins couldn't make that statement.
    > > >
    > >
    > > In response to David and Joel, of course, I wasn't agreeing with Dawkins's
    > > statement, just giving an example of the way in which Darwinism is typically
    > > portrayed by scientists as needing nothing more than law and chance. Neither the
    > > existence of atheists prior to Darwin nor the religious beliefs of Darwin himself
    > > nor the identification of the argument from design with Christianity are relevant
    > > to my point.
    > >
    >
    > Bryan:
    >
    > Do you diagree with Dawkins statement? Why?

    Because I agree with Augustine that being an intellectually fulfilled atheist is a
    contradiction in terms. Therefore, nothing, not even Darwinism, can make it possible.

    - Bryan

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