Re: Complaining against spam

John Neal (nealjw@one.net)
Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:04:46 -0400

Why don't you find something substantial to complain about?

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http://www.walmac.com.au/easttimor/photos/html/photo03.html
http://www.walmac.com.au/easttimor/photos/html/photo04.html
http://www.walmac.com.au/easttimor/photos/html/photo05.html
http://www.walmac.com.au/easttimor/photos/html/photo06.html

Steven Schimmrich wrote:

> Fight spam!
>
> The letter below was sent to the ASA mailing list by a clueless
> subscriber. Despite what the letter says, this is a chain letter
> and a pyramid scheme as defined by the United States Postal Inspection
> Service (http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm)
> and therefore ILLEGAL.
>
> Feel free to express your displeasure at USA.NET for allowing
> illegal spam to pass through their site (I've gotten several with
> this domain name myself in the past). Send e-mail to their public
> relations people (http://www.usa.net/pr.html) and postmaster at:
>
> lwood@wmc.com, candice@usa.net, postmaster@usa.net
>
> Please take a moment to report it to the appropriate authorities
> as well.
>
> Pyramid schemes can be reported to the Federal Trade Commission at:
>
> pyramid@ftc.gov
>
> Postal fraud can be reported to the U.S. Postal Service at:
>
> customer@email.usps.gov
>
> Take a part in trying to curb this blatant abuse that's
> unfortunately becoming more and more prevelant as immoral and
> greedy people try to scam a buck on the Internet.
>
> - Steve.
>
> ---------------------------- SPAM BELOW ------------------------------
> Delivered-To: asa@lists.calvin.edu
> From: responsefivehundred@usa.net
> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 12:33:22 -0600 (CST)
> To: responsefivehundred@usa.net
> Subject: Money In Your Pocket
> Reply-To: sample@whynot.net
> X-PMFLAGS: 10322341.10
> Comments: Authenticated Sender is <user122@whynot.net>
> Sender: asa-owner@udomo2.calvin.edu
>
> This is it folks. This is the letter you've been reading about in the news
> lately. Due to the popularity of this letter on the internet, a major nightly
> news program recently devoted an entire show to the investigation of the
> program described below to see if it really can make people money. If you saw
> it, you know that their conclusion was that
> it's Legal, it makes money, and it is easy. This is one of the most popular
> money making opportunities on the internet today!
> Just read over the letter below. It will make starting a breeze. If you
> have questions, please visit my new site http://www.ldh-uninc.com/ and send
> me an e-mail. Bottom Line...it works!! Hope to hear from you soon.
>
> L. D. Holmes, Copperas Cove, TX
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> My advice to you is that you save this letter (or print it) for a time.
> The idea is very simple, but it definitely takes a few times reading it over
> before it sinks in. I am confident that if you read over this letter briefly
> once now, and once again whenever you get the chance, you will begin to see
> the potential involved.
>
>
> Most people do not respond to this letter immediately. Take as much
> time as you need to let the idea fly around in your head alittle.
>
> This is not a pyramid scheme.
>
> Many people equate this program with
> illegal schemes that involve nothing but the transferring of cash. The
> difference between a legitimate multi-level marketing program and a pyramid
> scheme is that in a pyramid, there is no money being exchanged for a
> legitimate product. The law states this clearly. Anyone who claims this
> program is illegal is misinformed in the area of retail law.
>
>
> In this program, the product is a financial report that you can simply
> e-mail to someone after they order it from you and send cash to you through
> the mail. While the report can be sent easily to yout customers with the
> click of one button through e-mail, it is nonetheless a legitamate product
> which people choose to send you $5.00 to purchase from you.
>
> The other legal issue that most people ask about in programs such as
> This one is the issue of tax legality. The law is clear that all income must
> Be reported to the government each year. When customers send you cash, it is
> your responsibility to keep track of how much you are making and report this
> at the end of the year.
>
>
> Following is a simple explanation of the system and simple
> instructions
> for you to follow to get started right away:
>
> 1) You save this letter onto your computer in case you need it later
>
> 2) You send $5.00 to each of the 4 people listed below to order a report
>
> 3) Each of those 4 people will e-mail you 1 report immediately
>
> 4) You save these 4 reports onto your computer
>
> 5) You go back to this original letter and move everyone's name down 1 level,
> removing the person in the 4th position and putting your name and address in
> the 1st position
>
> 6) You have this newly altered letter e-mailed to tens of thousands of people
> (usually people pay a bulk e-mailer to do this for them to start)
>
> 7) When people receive this letter you sent them, they will see your name and
> address as the 1st report slot and will send you a $5.00 order for it
>
> 8) When people order these reports, from you, you immediately e-mail it to
> them (they will give you their e-mail address along with their $5.00)
>
> That's it folks......its that simple......the $5 is yours!
>
> You e-mail them the report by "copying" it out of the saved e-mail
> report you received from the person on the list in this letter, and "pasting"
> it into a new e-mail letter and sending
> it off.... no problem. After you get the hang of it, you can copy many
> letters into new e-mails very fast and send off many orders quickly.
>
> The reason it works is that everyone involved has an incentive to help
> everyone else succeed. The people you order the reports from will e-mail the
> reports to you immediately because they will profit when you profit.
> Each of the 4 people you order from also will be eager to answer any
> questions you may have and help you in any way they can so that you can start
> mailing copies of this letter out with their names on it along with yours.
>
> I mentioned above that success in this system can be guaranteed based
> on simple statistical facts. When you send out tens of thousands of
> advertisements (or pay someone to mail them out for you), you can be
> absolutely positively assured that a certain percentage will respond and send
> you $5.00 for the report. The next fact is that the larger the mailing you
> have sent out, the more responses you will get.
>
> Please understand this about this program: It only takes an
> extremely small percentage of people to respond to your ad in order for you to
> make a profit. This is because your
> advertisement (with your address or P.O. box on it) will be sent to such
> incredibly large amounts of people. (A bulk e-mailer can send your letter out
> to thousands of people per hour.)
>
> OVERVIEW OF OUR ELECTRONIC MULTI-LEVEL
> MARKETING PROGRAM:
>
> Basically, this is what we do: We sell thousands of people a product for
> $5.00 that costs us next to nothing to produce and e-mail. As with all multi-
> level businesses, we build our
> business by recruiting new partners and selling our products. Every state in
> the U.S. allows you to recruit new multi- level business online (with your
> computer).
>
> Look at multi-million companies such as New Vision (a vitamin
> supplier). We use the exact same method of multi-level selling they use. The
> only difference is that our product is a financial report you can easily e-
> mail to someone, rather than costly vitamins.
>
>
> The product in this program is a series of four businesses and financial
> reports. Each $5.00 order you receive by regular mail will include the e-
> mail address of the sender. To fill each order, you simply e-mail the product
> to the buyer. THAT'S IT!...the $5.00 is yours! It really is THAT simple!
> Think about it...........
>
>
>
> FOLLOW THE
> INSTRUCTIONS EXACTLY
>
> The profits are worth it.
>
> So go for it. Remember the 4 points and we'll see you at the top.
>
>
> ******* I N S T R U C T I O N S *******
>
> This is what you must do:
>
>
>
> 1................ Save this letter onto your computer
>
>
> 2................ Order all 4 reports listed and numbered from the list below.
>
> (For each report send $5.00 and your e-mail address on a piece
> of paper to each person listed. When you order, make sure you print your e-
> mail address clearly, and also be sure to request each SPECIFIC report. You
> will need all four reports, because you will be saving them onto your computer
> and reselling them.)
>
>
> (You will receive the reports a few days later by e-mail. Save them
> onto your computer)
>
>
> 3................ Now you have 4 financial reports saved on your computer.
> These are legitimate products that people will want to buy. You are ready to
> start advertising your product to tens of thousands of potential customers.
>
> 4................ Take this letter and move everyone's name and address down
> 1 position. The person in the 4th position gets erased. Put your own name
> (make up a company name) and address (could be a home or PO box) in position
> 1.
>
>
> At this point you have 2 options. If you decide you want to
> advertise yourself, you need to obtain mailing lists and send this newly
> altered letter to as many people as you can to get people to order the report
> from you for $5. This method can be time consuming and costly.
>
> The second option is to pay a bulk e-mailer to mail out your letter
> for you. They can send out your letter to tens of thousands of people for a
> fraction of the cost of the above method. This is the method we recommend and
> is by far the simplest and cheapest way to go.
>
> When you use a bulk e-mailer, all you need to do is give them a copy
> of the original letter with the address you want your $5 orders to go to and
> they will do the rest. If you are able to find a bulk e-mailer who is
> already involved with the program, they won't even need the original letter
> since they will already have it.
>
> There are many bulk e-mailers out there who will send out your letter
> for you. You can find them by doing a search of the word "bulk e-mailer" on
> the internet. There are many excellent companies out there who will mail for
> you, but you still must be alittle wary. We have found that some companies
> don't send them out in a productive manner (w/out using fresh addresses or
> attaching other messages to yours) and since there is no sure way to know
> exactly their methods, you're left wondering.
>
>
> The best of all scenarios is to have someone who is also involved in this
> program mail out your letters for you. There are many private bulk e-mailers
> out there who send out this very letter with their names on the list because
> they know the potential involved. There is a good chance that one of the
> people you will be ordering your report from will be able to bulk e-mail out
> your letter for you.
>
> When you order the report from the people on the list in this letter,
> they will e-mail you a report---if they bulk e-mail, they will probably
> include an offer to send your letters out for you.
>
> There is a simple reason why it is best to have someone involved in the
> program bulk e-mail out your letters for you. As mentioned before, it is
> difficult to verify that a company is sending out your letter in the most
> profitable way. If the person sending out the letter is also involved in the
> program, they will understand the program and, best of all, they will do
> everything possible to see you get as many responses as possible because when
> you profit they will profit as well since they are on the list as well. This
> gives the person an incentive to take great care in sending out your mail
> since they have alot to gain from it as well as you. Other bulk e-mailing
> companies will not have this same incentive.
>
> ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-
> DAY SERVICE ON ALL ORDERS!!!
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------
>
> REQUIRED REPORTS
>
>
> ***Order each REPORT by NUMBER and NAME***
>
> Following is the list of people you will send $5 to:
>
> (Remember to include your e-mail address on the paper concealing the
> 5 dollars)
>
> When they e-mail the report to you, save them onto your computer.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------
>
> REPORT #1
>
> "HOW TO MAKE $250,000 THROUGH MULTI-LEVEL SALES"
>
> ORDER REPORT #1 FROM:
>
> TKST
> P.O. BOX 129
> LYNN HAVEN FL 32444
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------------------
>
>
> REPORT #2
>
> "MAJOR CORPORATIONS AND MULTI-LEVEL SALES"
>
> ORDER REPORT #2 FROM:
>
> L.D.H. UNINC
> P.O. Box 545
> Copperas Cove, TX 76522-0545
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------
>
> REPORT #3
>
> "SOURCES FOR THE BEST MAILING LISTS"
>
> ORDER REPORT #3 FROM:
> JKW Enterprises
> PO Box 8943
> Lacey, Wa 98509
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------
>
> REPORT #4
>
> "EVALUATING MULTI-LEVEL SALES PLANS"
>
> ORDER REPORT #4 From:
> KBLS Enterprises
> 5312 SE 30th Ave
> Ocala, FL 34480-7524
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------
> Here's the fun part:
>
> Take a look at what is called the "multiplier effect" in marketing:
>
> Let's say you decide to start small just to see how it goes. Assume
> you advertise your letter until 10 people respond and send you $5.00. Also
> assume that those 10 people also advertise until they get 10 people to order
> and send them $5.00.
>
> Assume this continues for everyone in your downline and observe the following
> results:
>
> * 10 people order report #1 from you and send you $5.00
>
> 5 * 10 = $50
>
> * each of those 10 people advertise until 10 people order report #1 from them
> (since their mailing will have your name as #2, 100 people will also send you
> $5 each to order report #2)
>
> 5 * 100= $500
>
> * each of those 500 people advertise until 10 people order report #1 from
> them (1000 people order report #3 from you and send you $5)
>
> 5 * 1000= $5,000
>
> * each of those 1000 people advertise until 10 people order report #1 from
> them
>
> (10,000 people order report #4 from you and send you $5)
>
> 5 * 10,000= $50,000
>
> $50,000 + $5,000 + $500 + $50
>
>
> Total = $55,550
>
>
> A bulk e-mailer can send your letter out to thousands of people in one
> night. The above scenario holds true if only 10 people out of those thousands
> respond. This program is a study in statistics. A certain percentage WILL
> respond and send you $5.
> There is no guarante that you will make $50,000 each time, but its nice
> just to have some help with the rent or to have a few bills taken care of each
> month. This program is fun to be a part of. We hope to hear from you soon!
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> --
> Steven H. Schimmrich
> Physical Sciences Department schimmri@kutztown.edu (office)
> Kutztown University schimmrich@earthlink.net (home)
> 217 Grim Science Building 610-683-4437, 610-683-1352 (fax)
> Kutztown, Pennsylvania 19530 http://www.kutztown.edu/~schimmri/