>Fall of evolved man

Eduardo G. Moros (moros_eg@castor.wustl.edu)
Fri, 31 Oct 1997 16:22:20 -0600

Another possible scenario is Glenn Morton's, another's could be that God just
made Adam and Eve "de novo" and in "harmony" with the existing "evolved" or
"progressively created" life forms, another's could be that Eden is really
another planet and the first couple were exiled to earth for disobedient,
another's could say that it happened just as it says in the Bible, another's
could say that Adam and Eve's story is just an allegorical explanation,
another's could say that Moses made it up out of religious and logical
necessities, another's could say the whole thing is nonsense,
.......................................... and yet another hopes someday we'll
find out for sure. In the mean time we can say for sure that there is no
doubt at all that we are fallen and sinful people (i.e., we must've fallen).

> Fall of evolved man
>
> David Campbell (bivalve@mailserv0.isis.unc.edu)
> Fri, 31 Oct 1997 17:27:47 -0400
>
> > How does an evolutionary development of man bring the Fall of Man into the
> >>picture?
> The only approach I know of that seems credibly orthodox in
> recognizing the significance of the Fall is to assume that Adam and Eve,
> physically produced by evolution (with or without miraculous intervention),
> were miraculously endowed with a spiritual nature. (Some on this list have
> suggested that the spiritual nature could have been "built into" the
> evolutionary process rather than being "inserted" once Adam appeared; I
> suspect distinguishing "when" God acted is very moot considering His
> relationship to time.) They were given a choice whether to obey or to
> disobey God and chose to disobey.
> Many have tried to claim that our being a product of evolution
> means that we are not responsible for our actions and are not truly sinful.
> However, this is flawed on two counts. First, the logic is invalid-it's
> simply a disguised form of trying to claim that the physical process of
> evolution has a-theistic [deistic or atheistic] implications. The Bible
> says we have natural tendancies to do wrong- "I do this because it's my
> nature" is not a valid excuse to a Christian!
> Secondly, it is invariably in practice a hypocritical claim. If
> you were to hit someone who was endorsing this arguement, he would get mad
> and want justice, if not vengeance. He thinks you should be responsible
> for your actions!
>
> David Campbell