>I cannot speak for others, but as for me I must warn you and all others who
read
>this list that Paul Arveson does not always speak the truth. He is a fallen
>person and, though usually sincere, may not be considered either trustworthy,
>logically consistent, or morally pure. Be forewarned.
At last I have met an honest dishonest man.
Dick Fischer
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