Socrates & Jesus

John W. Burgeson (73531.1501@compuserve.com)
01 May 96 18:05:30 EDT

Just finished THE TRIAL OF SOCRATES, recently published, and as an exercise put
together a list comparing the lives of these two people. No scholarly claims
here, just impressions. FYI. Burgy
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SOCRATES A COMPARISON OF SOCRATES AND JESUS
30-Apr-96 JOHN W. BURGESON

ATTRIBUTE | SOCRATES | JESUS |
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PHILOSOPHY | COLLECTIVIST | INDIVIDUALIST |
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HUMOR | WITTY | WITTY |
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DISCOURSE | GRACEFUL | GRACEFUL |
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FRUSTRATED | | |
LISTENERS | OFTEN | OFTEN |
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DENIES HE | | |
IS A | | |
TEACHER | YES | NO |
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HUMILITY | FALSE | REAL |
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ABSOLUTE | SOUGHT IT | CLAIMED IT |
CERTAINTY | | |
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PUPILS | MOST WERE FAILURES | ALL BUT ONE WERE WINNERS |
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VIOLENCE | PREFERRED PERSUASION | PREFERRED PERSUASION |
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WRONG | NO ONE DOES IT VOLUNTARILY | YES THEY DO |
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ULTIMATE | | |
REALITY | SEARCHED FOR IT | CLAIMED TO BE IT |
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FREEDOM | | |
OF SPEECH | DID NOT ENDORSE IT | ENDORSED IT |
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WISDOM | CLAIMED IT | CLAIMED IT |
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TEACHINGS | POISONOUS NONSENSE | WISDOM OF THE AGES |
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THE WORLD | TAUGHT WITHDRAW FROM IT | TAUGHT "IN IT, NOT "OF IT" |
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HUMAN BEING| TWO PART -- BODY & SOUL | WHOLISTIC UNITY |
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SPOUSE? | MARRIED | UNMARRIED |
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MILITARY | WAS A SOLDIER | NO SERVICE |
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FATHER | A STONECUTTER | AN ARCHITECT/BUILDER |
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FAMILY |PROBABLY LOWER MIDDLE CLASS | PROBABLY MIDDLE CLASS |
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LANGUAGES | GREEK | HEBREW, GREEK, ARAMIC |
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INCOME | LEGACY | GIFTS & CONTRIBUTIONS |
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MOTHER | A MIDWIFE | NO RECORD |
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RESIDENCE | ATHENS | PALESTINE |
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TRAVEL | LITTLE | EGYPT AND INDIA |
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PRECURSOR | | |
TO | TOTALITARIANISM | DEMOCRACY/REPUBLIC |
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EMOTIONS | NEVER WEPT FOR ATHENS | WEPT FOR JERUSELEM |
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EMOTIONS | ICY LOGIC | WARM COMPASSION |
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EMOTIONS | COLD TOWARDS WIFE | LOVE TOWARDS MOTHER |
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WOMEN | "MACHO MAN" | ACCEPTED THEM AS EQUALS |
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| SHEEP TO BE RULED BY | SHEEP TO BE CARED FOR BY |
PEOPLE | SHEPHERD | SHEPHERD |
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ATTITUDE | | |
TOWARD | NOT ENDOWED WITH LOGOS |ENDOWED WITH LOGOS (REASON) |
COMMON |(REASON) AND NOT CAPABLE OF | AND CAPABLE OF GOVERNING |
PERSON | GOVERNING SELF | SELF |
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WHAT IS | | |
VIRTUE? | KNOWLEDGE | MICAH 6:8 |
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WHERE DOES | | |
KNOWLEDGE | | |
COME FROM? | TIGHT DEFINITIONS | THE HEART |
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HUMAN | | |
CONDITION | PART OF A HERD | WORTHY |
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COMMN | | |
PERSON | DEMEANED | ENDOWED WITH DIGNITY |
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CLASSES | | |
OF PERSONS?| YES | NO |
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FREE | | |
SPEECH? | NO | YES |
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EQUALITY | | |
OF ALL | | |
PERSONS? | NO | YES |
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OUTSIDERS | THERE EXIST BARBARIANS | NO SUCH CLASS EXISTS |
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THE POOR | NEVER MENTIONS THEM | A FOCUS TOPIC |
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ON SLAVERY | NO RECORD | NO RECORD |
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BORN | ABOUT 400 B. C. E. | ABOUT 6 B. C. E. |
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DEATH | EXECUTION | EXECUTION |
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DEATH | PEACEFUL | PAINFUL |
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STATUS NOW | DEAD | ALIVE |
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DIVINITY | NO CLAIM | CLAIMED IT |
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GOVT | FAVORED RULE OF THE ELITE | NO POLITICAL SPEECHES |
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LIFETIME | LIVED UNTIL ABOUT AGE 70 | DIED AT ABOUT AGE 33 |
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DEATH | AMONG FRIENDS | AMONG ENEMIES |
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NOTORIETY |MOST FAMOUS PERSON B. C. E. | MOST FAMOUS PERSON C. E. |
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PRIMARY | THE RULE OF LAW | THE RULE OF LOVE (AGAPE) |
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TEACHING | | |
METHOD | DEFINITIONS | PARABLES |
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WRITINGS | NONE | NONE |
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CURRENT | GENERALLY REVERED BY 20TH | WORSHIPPED BY MANY, HATED |
STATUS | CENTURY PEOPLE | BY SOME |
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| SOME AGREE, SOME DISAGREE |NEARLY EVERYONE AGREES WITH |
TEACHINGS | WITH THEM | HIS PRIMARY TEACHING |
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OTHER | IN FAVOR OF COVERUPS | ALL SHALL BE SEEN" |
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A TEACHER | YES | YES |
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GOOD | | |
FRIENDS | YES | YES |
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DISCUSSIONS| ONLY WITH THE ELITE | WOULD TALK TO ANYONE |
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PERSONAL | | |
ATTACKS | LIKED TO HUMILITE OTHERS | NEVER HUMILIATED ANYONE |