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Real-Life Drama
about People and Their Ideas
What happens in encounters between people with different ideas about origins? Unfortunately,
the personal interactions are sometimes "dramatic" rather than peaceful and productive, when the differing ideas are held with a confident passion by individuals
(and their groups) who
behave
as if they
think
people
with other
views are enemies who must be fought and conquered.
Much of the drama is motivated by the importance of our questions about origins, which have philosophical implications in life and practical applications
in education.
In this FAQ the condensed summaries (about creation, evolution, and design) will help you learn a lot in a little time. There is a sprinkling of illustrative examples — including potential dramatic conflict
in three contexts (for questions about age, evolution, and education) — but these are just "extra
spice" to supplement the main goal, which is to help you understand
the theological and scientific reasons for real-life drama, and to help us think and respond in ways that will lead to less drama:
Accurate Understanding and Respectful Attitudes
Students in my high school learned valuable lessons about understanding and respect from our civics teacher, who held debates in class and used his rhetorical
skill to persuasively argue the strong points of one view on Monday, but the next day he argued for another view and made it look good. After
a few months of discovering "what he didn't tell us Monday," we
learned that to get accurate understanding we should try to
get the best evidence and arguments that all sides of an issue can claim as support. And after we understood more accurately, we recognized that even when we have valid reasons to prefer one position, people on other sides of an issue may also have good reasons (both intellectual and ethical) for believing as they do, so we learned respectful attitudes.
But you can respect someone and their views, yet criticize their views, which you have evaluated based on evidence, logic, and values. The intention of our teacher, and the conclusion of his students, was not a postmodern relativism. Our goal was a rational evaluation of ideas in a search for truth.
A Website with Multiple Perspectives
Unlike most other organizations, ASA doesn't claim to offer
The Origins Answer. Instead of telling you what to believe, we'll
give you information about a wide range of positions. Our goal in this website is education, so we'll
try to avoid one-sided "Monday without Tuesday" indoctrination.
Some people won't think the overall result is NEUTRAL, due to perception (because they want a website to be biased in favor of their own views,
and they think a website is "neutral" only when it is biased
in this way) and reality (because it's impossible to say anything
substantial in a way that is neutral). But we will try to
be FAIR by giving you accurate descriptions of all positions, not weak
"strawman" distortions of what others believe.
Who are we? So far, in this
FAQ the "we" is just me. As explained in the FAQ HomePage,
my FAQ — with its descriptions and opinions written by me as an author — "is
being written for ASA, but does not claim to speak for ASA. ... It is one ASA-FAQ rather than the ASA-FAQ. Within ASA
there is a wide range of strong opinions about some questions, and in
the future we'll add other FAQs, written from other ASA perspectives." And
in the present, each part of the medium-sized FAQ links
to other pages, including some of my own but also LINK-PAGES
(written by me as editor) where you'll find links to pages by other authors with different perspectives.
Providing information about multiple perspectives
is consistent with the policy of the American Scientific Affiliation:
"As an organization, the ASA does not take
a position [what are the views of ASA?] when there is honest disagreement between Christians on an
issue [such as the "when and how" of creation]. We are
committed to providing an open forum where... legitimate differences of
opinion among Christians who have studied both the Bible and science are
freely expressed... in a context of Christian love and concern for truth."
(from the preface to ASA's Statement
of Faith)
a three-stage FAQ (short, medium, long)
There are three versions of this FAQ:
the brief outline of Sections 1A-7D in this page (it's 19 k
plus five drama-stories), a medium-sized Overview-FAQ
(107 k) that is the best balance between brevity and clarity/completeness,
and the 8
full-length pages (165 k total) for more detail.
When you read the
outline below, remember that it's extremely condensed — so
you can get a quick "big picture" — and many details have
been omitted. Generally it will give you an accurate picture of what's
in the larger FAQs, but the picture will be incomplete. If you want a more thorough understanding, I strongly recommend reading the corresponding sections in the Overview-FAQ, which I think is the best page I've written about origins. But the
outline below is brief so it's a good place to begin.
1 — Views of Creation and "When
we disagree..."
1A. When you listen to some Christians
and atheists, you'll think there are only two views of origins:
young earth (for authentic Christians) and old earth (for atheists and
misguided Christians). In the media, we often see only one
"Christian view" due to its sound-bite simplicity and its value
for calling attention to dramatic conflict. (and contributing
to the conflict) In
reality, there are four authentically Christian views of creation
— young earth, old earth progressive (by independent creations and/or
genetic modifications), and old earth evolutionary — plus variations.
1B. What are the mutual influences
between our worldviews — our views of the world, used for
living in the world — and our science? Why is a theist (but
not an atheist, deist, or rigid agnostic) free to "follow the evidence"
to any conclusion? But are Christians using their freedom?
1C. Why are so many so confident?
Because vigorous advocates for each view make "adjustments among
ideas" until they become satisfied with the quality and consistency
of their own ideas, so each view confidently believes it has The Answer.
In this context of self-confidence, how can we minimize unintentional
distortions of our opponents' views (due to lack of knowledge) and
intentional distortions (due to abuse of knowledge)? In this
website — which explores Origins Questions, but doesn't claim to
offer The Origins Answer — we try to promote accurate understanding
and respectful attitudes.
1D. What are the views of ASA?
Are we creationists? (yes and no, it depends on how "creationist" is
defined: all of us believe that God created everything, most of us think
the earth is old, and we have a range of views about how He created)
ASA does not advocate a particular conclusion about the WHEN-and-HOW
of creation (even though we all agree about the WHO) but we do endorse
a process of respectful discussion. We won't tell you what
to conclude, but we will provide information (as in this website with multiple pespectives) so you can make an informed
evaluation and reach your own conclusions.
2 — Using Information from Nature
and Scripture
2A. Warfare between science and religion!
This colorful portrait of history — with inherent conflict causing
rational science to be opposed by ignorant religion —
is dramatic (with heroes and villains clearly defined) and entertaining.
It is useful for anti-Christian rhetoric, and this was the main motive
of its most prominent popularizers. Even though a "conflict"
perspective is oversimplistic, inaccurate, and is rejected by modern historians,
it has exerted a powerful influence on popular views, and many people
mistakenly think irreconcilable conflict cannot be avoided.
Why? Some atheists (and rigid agnostics) want
to believe in "conflict" to support their personal rejection
of Christian faith; some Christians think statements in the Bible
cannot be reconciled with conclusions in science; and some people
are confused by a scientism that goes far beyond science,
as in thinking that science shows miracles in the Bible couldn't occur,
or that when science explains how "it happened by natural process"
this shows "it happened without God."
2A is a pivotal section, since
the next 16 sections (from 2B through 5G) are a response to show why science
and Christian religion can peacefully coexist, despite the claims for
"conflict" made by some atheists (against Christianity) and
some Christians (against science).
Drama you can Imagine
Earlier, I describe the "exciting
drama of real people and their ideas." You can get
a feeling for what often happens in real life by using your imagination
to visualize the ideas and feelings
in five common situations where we see dramatic conflict; one
is below, and four are later when we look at evolution & design
and education. These stories
illustrate conflicts — internal and external, within people and
between people
— that commonly occur in real life. Imagine that:
• your pastor confidently
declares, "the Bible says the earth is young, so you should believe it." But
at another church you've been attending a Sunday School class because it's taught by a close friend, who has explained (as an expert geologist)
why science shows the earth is old, and (as a theologically conservative Christian who has studied the Bible carefully) why Genesis does not teach a young earth. But your pastor insists that Genesis 1 must be interpreted as six 24-hour days. And what about the geology? You're
not a scientist and neither is your pastor, but when you ask him about this he
loans you a book by young-earth scientists, and their arguments seem to make
sense. Your pastor wonders why the pastor of the other church lets your friend teach, and you have questions.
We'll look at these questions in Sections 2, 3,
and 4 below, and (in more depth) in the Overview-FAQ.
2B. Science and the Bible cannot be
compared. But we can compare our interpretations of nature (in
science) with our interpretations of the Bible (in theology). And
we can look at the mutual interactions between our views of physical
reality
(in science) and spiritual reality (in theology). And we can learn
from history, by comparing science-theology interactions in the 1600s
(with stationary-earth science) and now (with young-earth science).
2C. God has graciously provided us
with two sources of information, in scripture and nature. For
the most important things in life — for learning about God and
how He wants us to live and love — the Bible is more important. But
for other questions we don't have to make an either-or choice; instead
we can learn from both scripture and nature, and our understanding of
total reality (spiritual plus physical) will be more complete and accurate.
How can we wisely combine both types of information? and what can we
learn from Psalm 19?
3 — What
does Bible-information say about age?
3A. In Genesis 1, the most important
meaning is theological, but is it also historical? Does it describe
a recent 144-hour creation, or six long periods of creation, nonconsecutive
days, proclamation days, or a re-creation? Or, as I think is true,
do the days form a non-chronological framework for
history?
3B. If the earth is billions of years
old, and animals died before humans sinned, is this theologically acceptable? Yes. Due
to human sin, the full supernatural "protection from death" provided
by
God in Eden — symbolized
by "the tree
of life" — was removed by God (in Genesis 3:22, because "he must not be allowed to... live forever") so Adam
and Eve would begin to perish, with natural processes temporarily allowing life
while leading gradually
to their death. But the Good News of Jesus Christ — whose sinless
life and sacrificial substitutionary death show us His wonderful
plan
for
converting
sin
and
death (of humans) into grace and life (for humans) — offers
salvation
for each of us, whether the earth is
young or old.
3C. Is belief in a young earth
an essential Christian doctrine? Is it taught with certainty in
the Bible, and is it important? No. There are good reasons
to think a young earth is not true, and is not "essential theology"
because the full
gospel
of Jesus — including His deity, virgin birth, teaching and miracles,
sinless obedience to the Father in life, substitutionary atonement in
death, victorious resurrection, ascension into heaven, and second coming
— is fully compatible with a young earth or old earth.
3D. It seems unwise to claim that "if
the Bible is true, the earth is young" because this means "if
the earth is not young, the Bible is not true." When a believer
(or sincere seeker) thinks a young earth is essential, and concludes —
based on a logical evaluation of evidence from nature — that the
earth is not young, faith can be weakened or rejected. Proponents
of a young earth should be admired for their desire to believe what
the
Bible teaches, but they should humbly consider the possibility that their
interpretation of the Bible might be wrong, and should adopt a more
loving attitude
toward their brothers and sisters in Christ who don't include young-earth
belief as part of their Christian faith.
4 — What
does nature-information say about age?
4A. The scientific predictions of young-earth "flood
geology" don't match our observations of reality, so young-earth science
fails in these scientific
reality-checks. Abundant evidence from a wide range
of fields — studying sedimentary rocks, coral reefs,
geological and biogeographical patterns in
the fossil record, seafloor spreading and magnetic
reversals, genetic molecular clocks, radiometric dating, the development of stars,
starlight from faraway galaxies, and more — indicates that the earth
and
universe are billions of years old. Thus,
we have multiple independent confirmations, and if all of these fields
are wrong we must discard much of modern science. This isn't likely to
happen, nor does it seem desirable. But "the
full gospel
of Jesus... is
fully compatible with a young earth or old earth" so we can
examine the
evidence-and-logic
of science with an open mind, to learn what information from nature shows us
about the
world
created
for us by God.
4B. We cannot observe ancient history. Proponents
of a young universe ask, "Were you there? Did you see it?", and imply
that "no" means "then you can't know much about it." But
scientists can logically evaluate the evidence produced by past events, and historical
sciences provide reliable ways to learn about the history of nature.
4C. But can we believe what we see? If
the universe is young, to be immediately functional it would have to be created
with some essential features (mature humans,...) having a false "appearance
of old age." But how old, and for what features? Or would an
honest God create a universe that is old, so it can actually be the age it appears
to be?
After you have "learned
from both scripture and nature, and your understanding of total reality
(spiritual plus physical)
is more complete and accurate," you can decide whether you think
the universe probably is young or old, and either way you can be confident that
God
loves you, and Jesus offers you salvation. Biblical
Theology for
young-earth
Christians
Now we shift our focus from WHEN
to HOW. You can get a feeling for the drama of "people
and their ideas (in Sections 5-7)" by imagining that:
• you're a flexible
agnostic, uncertain about God but willing to search for truth. You
hear Richard Dawkins declare that evolution did happen, so God isn't
necessary,
and smart people don't believe in God. But another respected scientist
explains why evolution (astronomical and biological) is possible only
because the universe was intelligently designed with the detailed fine-tuning
that is necessary for life. And another explains how evidence
for
"intelligent design" is evidence against a totally natural
evolution.
You're confused, wondering whether Intelligent Design claims that evolution
did or didn't occur. And is design scientific? Some scientists
claim that design — but which one (trying to explain evolution
or challenge it) — is scientific, while others claim it's
religious and it has no basis in science. These scientists disagree,
but all of their arguments seem logical, so you're baffled, wondering
"what is science" and "what is (probably) true" and
"what should we teach" and you have
questions.
5 — What can a Christian believe
about evolution?
5A. In a
Judeo-Christian worldview, "natural" does not mean "it
happened without God" because we believe that God designed
and created natural process, continually sustains it, and
can guide it to produce a desired natural-appearing result in formative
history and (more important) in our daily lives.
5B. Many properties of nature are "just
right" for life. Why? Maybe our universe was cleverly
designed to allow sunshine, proteins, and people. Or maybe we live
in a multiverse (with many universes) and "many things will
happen," including life, if there are enough universes. It
seems impossible to know whether we live in a designed universe, a designed
multiverse, or an undesigned multiverse.
5C. Some debaters try to prove (or
disprove) the existence and activities of God. But proof seems
impossible, which is frustrating for those who seek certainty. God
seems to want us to live in a state of uncertainty, with enough logical
reasons to believe or disbelieve, so we are free to make an internal
heart-and-will decision without being overwhelmed by external evidence. We
can use evidence (historical, personal, interpersonal, scriptural, and
scientific) to estimate the plausibility of various worldviews. But
there is no proof, so each of us — no matter what we believe in
our unique personal worldview — must live by faith in what we believe. For
a Christian, a trust in God should be the foundation for all thoughts
and actions in daily living.
5D. Scientifically, when we ask "is
nature 100% naturally assembling?" the answer is uncertain.
Theologically, we should praise God if he designed nature to be totally
self-assembling by natural process, or if he used some formative miracles,
which would be necessary
if a world cannot have both optimal operation and total natural assembly,
and God wanted optimal operation.
5E. An evolutionary creationist can
believe that miracles are used by God in the salvation history
of humans, but were not necessary (due to a clever design of nature)
in the formative history of nature. Even though atheists
claim that "natural" means "without God" so natural
evolution would occur without God, proponents of theistic evolution
can claim that God designed nature so evolution would occur, and actively
guided
evolution to achieve his goals, including the creation of humans with
the characteristics (physical, mental, emotional, ethical, spiritual)
desired by God. { Later, but not yet, human origins
will be discussed in this FAQ. }
5F. During the history of nature, has
God ever used miracles to bridge "gaps" in the cause-and-effect
chain of natural process? If someone says "yes" (or
even "maybe")
their claim is often criticized by calling it a "God of the gaps" claim. But
this criticism is sloppy because "God of the gaps" has many potential
meanings, since it might be
criticizing a theologically unsatisfactory implication that
God works
only in nature-gaps, or a claim that (in
general) gaps
are possible, or (in a specific situation) a gap did occur. Some
of this criticism is justified, and some isn't. This is confusing,
so I think we should replace this multi-meaning term
with several single-meaning
terms.
The Bible tells us that God works in two ways
(usually natural and occasionally miraculous) so affirming one mode
of divine action does not require rejecting the other. An either-or
choice isn't necessary. We should not allow implications that "natural"
means "without God" so "if it isn't a miracle then God
didn't do it." And a claim that God occasionally has worked through miracles
is not a claim that God works only in this way, and is consistent with the way God works in human history — usually natural and occasionally miraculous.
5G. In theology and science, our humility
should be appropriate — not too little, not too much. We
can make some claims, but not others, with confidence. Regarding
the WHEN of creation, theological humility and scientific confidence seem
justifiable, and it's appropriate to say "the earth is old." For the HOW of creation, humility (both scientific
and theological) seems justifiable,
and all Christians should humbly acknowledge that "IF
God created using another method (differing from the way I think He
created),
then
God
is worthy
of
our praise."
But this humility (if... then...) is compatible with explaining, using
arguments based on our studies of nature and scripture, why we think
a particular view is
most likely to be true. { You'll find more
about appropriate humility and "What can a Christian believe about evolution?" in 5A-5G of my Overview-FAQ. }
6 — What is intelligent design?
Who proposes it?
6A. four types of design: Maybe
a feature of nature was produced by intelligent design, by
a) natural process because nature was designed so this would occur,
b) natural process that was supernaturally guided to produce a desired
natural-appearing result; or by the detectable design-directed
action of c) a natural agent, or d) a supernatural
agent. Or maybe there was no design.
6B. The usual meaning of Intelligent
Design is "detectable design-action," so evolutionary
creationists
— who say "this action was not necessary in formative history"
but affirm two types of divine design (a and b) — are not included
in the "big tent community" of Intelligent Design. Logically,
a basic design theory — which only claims "design-action
did occur" and does not propose divine action, but does acknowledge
this as a possibility — is not a creation theory. Sociologically,
there are connections between design and creation, including young-earth
"scientific creationism," and unfortunately this is relevant when we're thinking about
origins education in public schools.
7 — How should we evaluate evolution
and design?
Sections 7A-7D don't evaluate theories of evolution
and design, they look at the process of evaluation.
7A. Most scientists think the support
is very strong for astronomical evolution (in an old universe)
and geological evolution (on an old earth) but is very weak
for
chemical evolution (of the first life). The support varies
when we look at four related aspects of biological evolution (for
development of life): micro-evolution (as in drug-resistant bacteria),
fossil evolution (in the geological context of an old earth), common descent
(with all species related), and
a Total
Macro-Evolution
of all biocomplexity and biodiversity. We should ask "what
does each origins theory claim about each aspect of evolution," and
then logically compare different theories to see where they
agree and disagree. And
support should not be illogically shifted from one aspect of evolution
to another; this occurs, for example, when evidences for micro-evolution,
fossil evolution, and common descent (with "bad designs" like the panda's
thumb) are claimed as support for a
Total Macro-Evolution that is 100% natural without any miraculous-appearing genetic
modifications.
7B. A feature of nature must be produced
by either undirected natural process or design-directed action,
which are mutually exclusive. (note: undirected natural process might be divinely guided, as in the "type b" design of Section 6A.) Everyone agrees about "detectable
design-action by a natural agent," which we infer when we
see "signs of design" in a house, newspaper, car,... But
there is disagreement when we ask whether we can infer design in nature,
especially in biology — by looking at minimal complexity, irreducible
complexity, and rates of evolution — and when the agent (and action)
might be supernatural. We cannot prove anything
in science, but — by asking "what do we know now, and what
is likely to happen in future science?" — could
we develop a logically
justified confidence about design? Where is the "burden
of proof," and what should we conclude when the evidence is
not conclusive?
7C. questions (and responses): Is
science possible in a world with occasional miracles? (Yes, because
science requires a world that is usually natural, not always natural.) But
can non-natural events be studied using the methods of science? (In
some ways, no. But in other ways, yes.) Is MN scientific?
(No, because MN cannot be derived from science. But MN is compatible
with science, so it is not unscientific.) In natural
science, must we explain natural phenomena and natural history by
natural causes? (Do you see the two different meanings of "natural"?) Do
proponents of design want to replace non-design research, or supplement
it? (If non-design is supplemented by design, with its distinctive
critical thinking, this could be useful in science. But will a claim
that "maybe there is no natural mechanism" cause all scientists
to abandon their searching, thus bringing science to a halt? Probably
not.) Should we view science as a game with rules, or
an activity with goals? (IF one goal of science is to find truth
about nature, and IF science is restricted by rigid-MN so we must
automatically conclude - no matter what is being studied or what
is the evidence, even when {as in the origin of life} current evidence does not favor a naturalistic
conclusion - that "of course,
it happened by natural process," and IF history has included
some non-natural events, THEN rigid-MN must reach some conclusions
that are incomplete or incorrect; is this scientifically useful,
and is it wise? if rigid-MN forces us to always conclude that "this
happened by natural process" before we examine the evidence,
are we bypassing the process of science? should a scientist
assume conclusions or investigate questions?)
7D. Can a Christian use methodological
naturalism (MN) by including only natural cause-and-effect in
scientific theories? Yes, I think Christians can use either an open
search (with rigid-MN in science but not outside science)
or open science (with testable-MN, by starting science
with MN but viewing it as a theory to be tested). We have a choice
because naturalism can mean either "only natural process
in this situation" (theologically acceptable for a Christian) or "only
nature exists" (not acceptable for a Christian). But worldviews
can be influenced by MN-Science and its naturalistic conclusions about "what
can and cannot happen in the world, according to science," because
most people are influenced by science.
If you're curious about "how we should define and evaluate design," and you want the ideas to be more clearly explained and more deeply explored, you can read 6A-6B and 7A-7D in my Overview-FAQ.
8 — Wise Education about Creation
and Origins
The questions in Sections 1-7 can produce uncertainties
and conflicts within a person. But when we make decisions about
education, internal personal questions can become external interpersonal
tensions, and conflicts become visible and vocal. To get a feeling
for the drama of people and their ideas, and the effects on teachers and
students, imagine that:
• you are a science
teacher in a private Christian school, and last year several parents
didn't
like what you said about the "when and how" of creation, about
the evidence for an old earth with creation occurring over a long period
of time, not in 144 hours. They
removed their children from your school and began a campaign in local
churches, encouraging other parents to also boycott your school.
Now your principal is blaming you for the school's damaged reputation
and financial problems, and is saying "if you want to keep your
job, you will change the way you teach science."
• you're a public school
teacher who is wondering what to teach about origins: Is there any
scientifically justifiable controversy about the "how" of origins?
If you think "maybe there is" and you explain why in class,
will you get in trouble with school administrators who fear the threat
of an expensive lawsuit? But if you don't, will you get in trouble
with parents? What is the best way to survive and thrive in the
current climate of controversy?
• you are the friend
of a student who is a Christian, who has been taught by her parents
(and
by her pastor and all of the teachers in his church-run school, which
is the only school she ever attended) that the earth is 6000 years old,
and
that
evolution is scientifically proposterous and is an evil idea invented
by atheists who hate God. She is very smart, has excelled in learning
science and is enthusiastic about it, and will soon enter college.
/ How do you think she will respond — and what will
happen with her interest in science, her views about creation, and the
quality of her faith — in each of these situations: A) she
attends a private college that teaches the same ideas as in her K-12
school,
but then she leaves this safe haven for a graduate school where conventional
old-earth science is assumed; B) she
goes to a public college where her first science teacher is an aggressive
atheist who ridicules Christians and tries to destroy their faith;
C) in her public college most of the science teachers (for
astronomy, geology, and biology, plus chemistry and physics) just "teach
the conventional science" with no apparent worldview bias; D) same
as C, but her geology teacher is a devout Christian who hosts a Bible
study for college students in his home, and is a respected elder at her
new church in the college town; or E) she attends a private
college where the teachers, who are all devout Christians, think there
is no
conflict
between their faith and the old-earth science they teach, and are sensitive
and thoughtful in their interactions with students who have other views.
Eventually these questions will be examined in Section 8, which
(since it isn't yet written) currently just links to pages that are now
available: a links-page for ORIGINS
EDUCATION IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS and Critical
Thinking (about Creation, Evolution, and Design) in Public Schools. I wrote the first page as a web-editor (so it's
intended to be objective, and I've tried to be approximately neutral), and the second page as an author who is freely expressing
personal views, similar to the page you're now reading.
As explained earlier, "if
you want more completeness and clarity, you can read the corresponding
part
of the Overview-FAQ."
The homepage for Whole-Person Education explains our educational philosophy: "This website is a self-education resource for busy people with ‘too much to do and not enough time.’ You don't want to waste valuable time — because, as Ben Franklin said, it's ‘the stuff your life is made of’ — so we want to help you learn a lot in a little time. For each of many interesting topics, you can learn about a variety of views in our Multiple Perspectives website that gives you a Quick Education in two stages: introductory pages quickly show you a "big picture" overview [as in Cliffs Notes], and then (in the pages we link to) you can explore what you want in more depth."
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